Does that sound accurate, or would you put it another way? Finally, where do you see your work fitting into contemporary art? And clay was a great conductor, medium for that, because like I said, you touch it, it demands a certain sincerity and honesty to it. Basic survival stuff. It's water-polished to reseal the surface so that it's like gessoing or priming a canvas. NEIL WILLIAMS: And they're all looking off indifferent directions with this vacant, yet intriguing look on their faces. 0000007465 00000 n There was no issue there, and shewas a very good person, and. Rising weight means most male jockeys have to waste around the time they end their apprenticeships and lose their appeal to trainers. The biggest of them exist on starvation diets that seem to shrivel brains, as well as bodies. NEIL WILLIAMS: And then it's lightly water-polished with a damp sponge, NEIL WILLIAMS: after it's sanded, which is the excruciating part, because you're sanding these little fine, fine tines or fine, fine feathers without breaking them. And I think a lot of that was nurtured by Charles' influence on not losing touch with how important the idea and the spoken word is. "You get here and we make a few things and I'm completely smoothed out." Ive seen so many people who go to wrong sources. And vocabulary and marks that are important to you, not necessarily another language, but things that you'll start repeating, and then there's the journey in finding out why they're important to you. And Ithe ability to teach others how to throw very well quickly has been very rewarding to me, too. She was just using me as a sounding board, of course, a fresh, young eye, whatever it was. So, survival and celebration, it might sound banal or, you knowhope it doesn't sound flippant, but it'sI think it's pretty simple. And, when we got there, he was getting towards the end, and he was off on the last three plates, and it just about threw him so he had toViola kindly went up to him, "That looks so good, thank you so much." I want them to have energy, maybe a little figure reference, maybe some structural reference. NEIL WILLIAMS: Mm-hmm. She added up the time one day she spend doing that rather than the action of painting or drawing, and she said, "That's enough, I'm not smoking anymore." But she was talented and had a great eye. NEIL WILLIAMS: We used to go out every Saturday to theor, every other Saturday to the Alameda Flea Market, where she collected all her littleher little images from a lot of. Especially, she thought it could be for any artist when they reach a crisis period in life. "Yes, you are." But, no, I always considered, I'm proud to be an American artist, yeah, or workingor the ability to work as an artist in relative safety. She didn't encourage me to stop and nix it and do something else andbut very encouraging and learned a lot about keeping the work alive and interesting, NEIL WILLIAMS: and a part of which was making mistakes, NEIL WILLIAMS: accepting those mistakes, and, MIJA RIEDEL: Now, you graduated with a BFA in '81, and I can't tell from the CV if it's ceramics or a general craft. MIJA RIEDEL: Just female, or across the boards? Pending. I just wanted a couple of specifics. What a gent. Iat a certain point, I just accepted the fact that I am going to have to do that accept of it all, in order to survive. [Affirmative.] Neil Williams was a top jockey, I remember him winning premierships in Brisbane, was the top rider there. There'sI've always had intention and the whole intent-content argument, how to evaluate, the one Garth Clark borrowed from Henry Moore on how to evaluate work. If my work can do that, that's all I could hope for. But they kept coming up. He was like, "You know, palace-and-cottage, it's likeMichelangelo was a palace artist; Van Gogh was a cottage artist." And, I would get up and I would go out and leave my keys sitting on the table, that kind of stuff. From straight-line stuff in 1980 or '83horizontal, vertical, and cut in thirds and large planes of colorto diagonal and feathering and curvilinear, which they tooka long time to get to. And they thought it would bring about 17, it brought $39 million, and he took it all and he gave it toyou know, museums and charities, and he put it back in the arts. They want to review their life so that they have a sense that it had some meaning, that we had a cause that we at least embraced and tried to fulfill. MIJA RIEDEL: There are a couple of columns, vase columns that we looked at that were, what, 12 feet tall, MIJA RIEDEL: from the late '90's. And then he also, with his extraordinary knowledge, helped to give some context. I knew I had to get away from Viola and that environment at a certain point. NEIL WILLIAMS: And it makes thethere's a certain way it it makes the work cleaner in a way. And it wasit was almost like she had hunted, killed it, brought it home for display. But he admitted he borrowed it from Henry Moore. [Affirmative.] You know, you lose a house, you lose a dear friend young, multiple friends young, unexpectedly. NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah. WebThoroughbred Jockey Neil Williams NEIL WILLIAMS Australia Best Horse : BRAVE WARRIOR (Timeform Rating 124) COSSACK WARRIOR (AUS) NOTHING TO DO NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah, with a great deep love of art history throughout every culture. NEIL WILLIAMS: And the delight, again, back to the plates and the delight of the plates , no matter what the historians need to say about them, there was a bottom line, just pure delight in making them, just like it was pulling things out of the kiln for the first time. Even though they were colorful and they were kind of drawn and animated and doll-like. And I remember evenyeah, now that you refresh my memory, she didmention that. It washaving an arsenal, collecting an arsenal of weaponry. It's not that kind of work I do. Consider following President Eyrings example, Elder Andersen told students. "Neil is a great person to work with on every level. It always helps me visualize that there is that loving, just, merciful, all-knowing, perfect God and Savior and the Holy Spirit that love us and walking right along side us.. I have Neil's'Shirley was her name'I have Shirley's drawing of a nude." MIJA RIEDEL: Or did they even exist? MIJA RIEDEL: Well, they could be. NEIL WILLIAMS: Intent, is it intention, materials, technique, tradition equals content. And, for some reason, I always knew what the thing was. Pheasants, and, hawks, and turkeys, and eagles, and owls, and hummingbirds, and all kinds of varieties of birds. NEIL WILLIAMS: She would decide. She was a member of the Sacramento Symphony. NEIL WILLIAMS: And his writing, too, especially about her work, was very strong. I have revived an iconic British Sports Car brand, rebranded an airline with Nicole Kidman's help, tackled the threat of terrorism, revamped a leading sports broadcaster, and created one of the UK's most successful Drink Drive campaigns. A little more than 50 years ago, Elder Neil L. Andersen returned to his familys small dairy farm in Idaho after completing his mission to France. MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm. And itand then something got softer about it, I thought. He said, "I knew what I supposed to be doing." I'm not, because I know my work is good. Afterthoughts? So we sat for a moment, and it was like, I didn't know what to say, and then he just looked at me andhe was very peaceful man. There's one on the hill behind us here that was also built from the same bricks that was one of Ernest Borgnine's ex-wife's, had assumed. She actually kind of stalked it, but. It was maybe a dozen or 15 of them. NEIL WILLIAMS: Oh, they wanted a limited edition. Did I understand you say that? NEIL WILLIAMS: for the rest of their life. Uh-huh. And all relatively close to 12 feet tall or varying heights? NEIL WILLIAMS: And show sheand I knew there was something extremely special, and I didn't have an art background. I've heard of some horror stories in university and community college professors. And they wheel her out there. Here you'll find all collections you've created before. I mean, come on. And, I was really, very, and profoundly appreciative of that. . Her Oakland retrospective was getting reviewed by Thomas Albright at the time, and he could be a realI mean he could be a nasty reviewer [Laughs.]. She was just sitting in the wheelchair, "No, I'm not going to.". And now, Grandma Maria is going to give a blessing before theand then Sam said she sat there a little, and she yelled out, "No!" She used to work there in the summers, she liked being around the students. And there were some of those sections, were 150 pounds and they were 10 feet in the air, all in sections, and I had pull them apart without breaking or chipping anything, get down the ladder, get them in the kiln. NEIL WILLIAMS: Uh-huh. Was that interesting for you in any way? And she was giggling all the time about stuff, yeah. And we sat with himbecause Lee forgot some equipment, had to run off. So, there was ahealthy push, not a lot of information but a healthy push, and a reassurance that is was okay to pursue this. Toby Covich and I see each other all the time. I can't imagine what my friend, Jason Rhoades, was going through. So, nothing came to you in terms of a new thought, or a new perspective, ornow I'll approach it from a slightly different angle today? He's a magnificent friend, and he's an interesting guy. endstream endobj 57 0 obj<>/Metadata 54 0 R/Pages 53 0 R/Type/Catalog/PageLabels 51 0 R>> endobj 58 0 obj<>/ColorSpace<>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageC]/Properties<>>>/ExtGState<>>>/Type/Page>> endobj 59 0 obj<> endobj 60 0 obj<> endobj 61 0 obj<> endobj 62 0 obj<> endobj 63 0 obj<> endobj 64 0 obj[/ICCBased 81 0 R] endobj 65 0 obj<> endobj 66 0 obj<>stream The French philosopher talked about lan vital, the vital energy. He said, "I'm going on the plane to go to Rio." Gambling Help on 1800 858 858 or visit www.gamblinghelponline.org.au. It can only be true if that hope springs from Him who is eternal., Regarding this principle, BYU student Grettel Garcia spoke of acknowledging and looking for blessings. NEIL WILLIAMS: in order to take in to battle, in the field of painting and sculpture. Fun, she loves celebrating life, and always likes to have fun and pushes me to do things and get out of my comfort zone that I wouldn't normally do. NEIL WILLIAMS: Just the green light that it was okay to pursue this. MIJA RIEDEL: or have they stayed fairly constant? Size: 5 sound files (4 hr., 9 min. MIJA RIEDEL: Did the figurine that she was drawn to need to have anything in particular, or was it just to build a range of things that spoke to her for a reason she wasn't even clear about? Despite Jim Cassidy's best efforts BASHAASH still won the first at Canterbury tonight. She was very competitivecame back in all fired up one day in the studio and made me pour about 80 candlestick images that she was going to use in her, you know, NEIL WILLIAMS: new series of jug pieces. NEIL WILLIAMS: Oh yeah, I was there when he first came to her home and studio, yeah. Daily Racing Multiple. National Geographic? So, there is awhat we talked about earlier, that good art should ask more answersmight ask more questions than it answers. So, she was inviting, you know, "Do you like that? 0000007211 00000 n They got increasingly deep andI can't think of the word I'm looking for right now. MIJA RIEDEL:you'd mentioned, or were going to mention. Take your pick.". NEIL WILLIAMS: But I didn't. I mean, some of the stuff, I mean way back, in every culture. Dorothy was wonderful. ", NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah. . So Viola was starting to get some income and looking for something to do with her money andanother funny story hereand she wanted to castshe cast some little things in bronze. Elder Neil L. Andersen of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles speaks during the campus devotional in the Marriott Center on the BYU campus in Provo, Utah, on Tuesday, Jan. 17, 2023. Copyright in all R&S materials is owned by Racing and Sports Pty Ltd (R&S). You know, like, the little chicken image or some of those other images that she made eight, nine feet high. MIJA RIEDEL: Right. NEIL WILLIAMS: I never doubted that. They are altered, deconstructed, or shifted into different sections and reattached. We talked about him a little yesterday. And I said, "Do you know anyone down here that might be interested in them?" She was just fantastic. She had said, even once that there was nothing that she wouldn't give up to make art. A little more than 50 years ago, Elder Neil L. Andersen returned to his familys small dairy farm in Idaho after completing his mission to France. NEIL WILLIAMS:I'm not out there to rile anybody up or anything. MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm. I did things like Rosen [ph], I did Lincoln Center. There was a symbol of power to her, the man in the suit. 0000054048 00000 n And then it came up and I said, "Oh, those are from Dorothy.". [Affirmative. I don't do a lot of reading now, butoh, yeah, a lot of writers. But he even came across the sculptures of Dr. Fox, which are laughable, but they're amusing. I don't want that to be too decorative. ", NEIL WILLIAMS: I like that feeling of accomplishment at the end of the day, of exhaustion that you've given, and you've been able toespecially working with clay, you manifest something out of nothing but a ball of mud. NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah. NEIL WILLIAMS: I always thought they had this beautiful bittersweetness to them. But the lack of detail in thatthe simplicity of it just being this eruption of massive form and color, right in your face. I mean, you get on it, and you know it's right, and it's not satisfying like Thiebaud said, but you're still pushing on it and chewing on it. What a loss. . NEIL WILLIAMS: I don't know. MIJA RIEDEL: This is Mija Riedel with Neil Williams in the artist's home and studio in Auburn, CA on June 5, 2014 for the Smithsonian Archives of American Art, card number one. [Affirmative.] NEIL WILLIAMS: about her. And I was able toevery good piece I've made since I was 14 I've sold. There's no conception in that; you learn conception. So, she had a full palette of color to work with. NEIL WILLIAMS: And what was the last word he said when he sat up? Rena can probably attest to that. So the walls stay intact, but they're separated? NEIL WILLIAMS: I could have gone either way. Sowhat else? 1 because I know that when I do that, everything else works out.. I mean, she wanted toshe was so compulsive about stuff. [Affirmative.] NEIL WILLIAMS: there wasn athere was a celebration of life. How do you survive as a creative energy and keep growing? It was a compliment. NEIL WILLIAMS: And you also have to find a spot where you know what you're doing is right. NEIL WILLIAMS: It's just that it was slow progress. This site uses different types of cookies. So, if that gets into a spiritual phenomenon, then that makes sense to me. What rubbed off that was good? So, she had me casting thousands of little pieces from these molds, these commercial molds that were given to her, and she spent all summer assembling them into overall images and they looked likeI don't know. Or, that's what I mean about. Format: Originally recorded as 5 sound files. There was that pressure. MIJA RIEDEL: Was there a sense of humor or spirit of playfulness in her work? He has the rare ability able to look at any project from a broad perspective and solve the problems that need solving, while always retaining an infectious passion for steering creative work of the highest standard. NEIL WILLIAMS: And completely supportive, 110 percent. Was it. She was doing wonderful paintings, big paintings. NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah. NEIL WILLIAMS: And of course Cheri [Williams], of course Cheri. MIJA RIEDEL: [. NEIL WILLIAMS: Iwell it connected to the images she was. NEIL WILLIAMS: Well, the people around Arts and Crafts there at the time. NEIL WILLIAMS: And so I didn't know when I was getting out of high school, I wasn't sure what to do, and I ended upthey gave me scholarships to go to Arts and Crafts. But I knew, just to see the magnificence of color and form, that there was something very special going on here. I never saw that it was an effort to work outthe dark side or her dark past, whatever it might have been. NEIL WILLIAMS: Approaching them as a painting. NEIL WILLIAMS: But I guess she had to go with it. He said he knew that he would survive going to Vietnam, he had no doubt. . She tried to fill an area that nobody else was filling, and she did it well. She still was immediately drawn back to building things in clay, and painting, and doing the pastels, and junk pieces. MIJA RIEDEL: Right, because you were there in the studio working side by side so frequently that you could follow those fragments of thought. But they clustered them, so they morphed together and they were honeycombed together, in multiple, NEIL WILLIAMS: In Auburn, yeah. NEIL WILLIAMS: Oh, seeing in terms of a painting, a canvas. MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm. But, he wouldn't go to openings. NEIL WILLIAMS: Andalways incredible number one supportive of. Amazing little quotes, you never know what's going to come out of his mouth [Laughs.]. NEIL WILLIAMS: There's a certainnot that I want to take anybody's breath awaybut there's a certainwhen you're making it even, there's a certain gasp or a certain vibrancy I think there. NEIL WILLIAMS: And those are the ones that werejust those golden experiences because they werethey completed the circle of experience for an artist. That's the hardest part. NEIL WILLIAMS: because it brought in painting and color concerns, which I had no experience in. . MIJA RIEDEL: Interesting, because she made such a clear distinction between her own work and pottery. And then I realizedlet go of that and just realized by turning inside and making nice work, making good work, in a very, very small way, can do that. That was interestingthat was, I forget the writertalked about perception, conception, and practice. I've known them first-hand. MIJA RIEDEL: And I'm curious, when you say "spiritually, it fulfilled self-respect." NEIL WILLIAMS: You know, of course, whatever happened after that, whethershe wasn't going to be responsible for it. Tweets & replies. And water-polished bisqued, thenwipe down again with a damp sponge, so there's no dust on it. NEIL WILLIAMS: Spent time in some of Thiebaud's early workshops. Those kinds of things you want toyou knowwho do you turn to say, "This is not fair." So, long before you were graduating high school, and there are, MIJA RIEDEL: dozens of them, and clearly the Japanese influence is very. All information including race fields and TAB numbers should be checked with an official source. Ilike I say, it got larger and larger. I said, "You're kidding me." Andwriters, there are so many of them, there are so many good ones. Well, and then after that, there was a couple other shows in Sacramento and thenbut notI need to update that, MIJA RIEDEL: Fouts. [Affirmative.] [Laughs. But, I don't know, what were the statistics when I was in school? Sam would go pick her up and take her to the studio. MR] When I talked to [Rena MR], she said she would oftenif she felt that that was important to an artist. And he built them, and they were the original administration buildings. Like I said, you never knew when you were going to catch him. But technically, I like pushing that to the point where it just looks like it's ready to collapse. Were the plates the same process as the figures, same process as the junk pieces? Myfather was a naval intelligence officer, anti-submarine warfare, and was always involved in localhe was county supervisor, welfare director. And, of course, she'd make deals, you know, "I'll pay you so much a month whether you work or not." NEIL WILLIAMS: I just started working with it. Williams was Viola Frey's studio assistant. And I was like, "Oh my God.". But Viola and I used to banter back and forth a little bit. Berkley in '47-'48, in art. NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah. [Affirmative.] And Ralph Bacerra was there because he was Michael's instructor. NEIL WILLIAMS: He did a littlemost of her reading for her, I'm certain. WebMichele Marie MacNeill, ne Somers, was an American homemaker and model. Toby and. If it doesn't, then, for me, it's still stayed alive and interesting. And they're still not quite, know why, but there's an electrochemical in the cells of the heart which causes it to beat. Andyeah, I mean, even De Kooning had Alzheimer's. Young Elder Andersen borrowed money, found a job and started classes at BYU. NEIL WILLIAMS: Other dealers were okay to deal with. However, that experience also helped her better understand the Saviors Atonement. Any agency would be lucky to have him. So there was a. He said it was so bad. And they always seem to have their rewards. NEIL WILLIAMS: And many, many of them, some really talented people came out of that program. WebNeil Williams: After his suicide in 1999 his widow said hed come to hate racing after a close friend had been killed in a race at Canterbury six years earlier Stathi Katsidis: The 31 MIJA RIEDEL: You never talked at all about your working process, and I think that would be helpful. WebNeil Williams. He was giving assignments to these little ladies. Copyright 2023 Deseret News Publishing Company. NEIL WILLIAMS: Because they wereat the time, they were smaller, NEIL WILLIAMS: They were just big enough, but they were alsothey had thissense about them that obviously somebody was very tied, emotionally, to this image. 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